A.N.M. Anti Nigger Machine, New Superband

[troy]

Yeah saw this on myspace a week or so ago.
It's def real & happenin'. Read the same about them looking for labels etc.
Have not heard the trax yet, but bout' to go over to myspace afew moments.
Canot wait to hear fish & spacey together w Jimi & Doug!!!

[macaroni tony]

listened to the tracks over the weekend, seriously digging the sound.

Has anybody heard anything new on this?

[JD Blackstar]

http://helpfundtheanmrecordingbudgetfund.blogspot.com/

[Mister Zero]

Are you serious? They want the fans to donate money for the recording of their album? I know the guys in the band may not all have a lot of money but some of them have a whole lot more than me. We are talking about $27,000.00. Phil could easily put that up by his self. The guy made millions from Justin Timberlake and other session drumming. He used to have his own personal chef for Christ's sake. I mean come on, do it the way Alice in Chains did their last album. Pay for it yourself so you have 100% control of the whole process. If your album is quality like a true "black super group" should be able to produce, you will easily be able to work a deal with a label.

What happens if some fans put up money but not enough to reach the goal? will they be refunded? What if the album takes two years to make and sounds like crap? What if the album is never recorded?

Sorry for going on a rant but I find this to be a bunch of crap.

[paw]

Spot on, Mr. Z. My son and his friends made a professional sounding CD in the bass player's basement, using Pro Tools. Mixed and mastered it themselves, produced the CD's for less than $3 a piece. If these guys truly wanted to make recorded music, they could certainly do so for a fraction of what they are asking for.

If you read the site blog, there will be no refunds of any donations, whether a CD is made or not. Avoid this scam like the plague.

[Kike Gimeno]

With all my respect, I think they try to do the best quality product, I would like most of them would be millonaires but I think despite they make wonderful music during all those years don´t have the success they deserve
It´s only a way to do it, sometimes is difficult to find record companies help and it´s a call to fans, friends and people who want to listen good and real music, it´s a free election they don´t put a gun in your chest if you want to do it, good, if you don´t want to do it, it´s o.k too. if you didn´t read it all
"Once the recording, mixing & mastering is done, all who put in will receive a download of the album, a limited edition t-shirt, the artwork and will also be listed as an executive producer on the album"

[Mister Zero]

if you didn´t read it all
"Once the recording, mixing & mastering is done, all who put in will receive a download of the album, a limited edition t-shirt, the artwork and will also be listed as an executive producer on the album"[/quote]

OK. I'm not trying to be argumentative but I still think this is a bunch of crap.

If the album is never finished you don't get anything besides ripped off. You can't get a digital download, t-shirt, or listed as anything, if the album goes unfinished for any reason. Do you know how long it can take to record and produce an album? Especially if they are doing it on their own schedule and don't have a deadline. Which is what they are saying they want. 100% control to do the album however they want. There are way too many possibilities of this failing for me to understand any fan putting money towards this project.

In the article they say "If 1,318 fans put in $20 each, the goal would be reached!"

So you can be listed as an executive producer on the album, huh? Oh that's fantastic. My name along with 1300 others. How small is the text going to be for 1300 people to be listed on a cd booklet.

The more you look into this and think about it, the more ridiculous it becomes. Anyone that puts money toward this is just giving it away. You might as well just walk up to some stranger and give them $20. The response you get from them will be more rewarding than anything you will ever receive from this project.

[JD Blackstar]

If you don't wish to contribute. That's your prerogative. That said, to characterize the funding as a "scam" is hyperbolic and arguably tantamount to slander. The gentlemen in this band are neither "millionaires" nor thieves/confidence men.

[Freakoniko]

Jimi Hazel is one of the coolest cats out there. I have a hard time believing he'd be involved in scamming anyone. He's a truly unappreciated musical genius. I'd gladly donate a few buck to hear output from him untouched by music industry meddling. If you don't want to give, don't.

[G-Bone]

Originally Posted by Mister Zero

If the album is never finished you don't get anything besides ripped off. You can't get a digital download, t-shirt, or listed as anything, if the album goes unfinished for any reason. Do you know how long it can take to record and produce an album? Especially if they are doing it on their own schedule and don't have a deadline. Which is what they are saying they want. 100% control to do the album however they want. There are way too many possibilities of this failing for me to understand any fan putting money towards this project.

In many ways I agree with you here as a similar experience occurred with Fishbone and their merch shop (on an older version of this site) where back in the early 2000's, people payed for items online, the band received funds, spend the funds yet no merch was sent to the buyers. From memory, there was no merch even in inventory as shirts and what not were still to be printed. It was bad. I had a lot of trouble with the whole situation to be honest but someone explained it that it wasn't at all intentional, just poorly managed. So, yeah.... losing $20 in this pre-donation campaign for the A.N.M recording is a very possible reality.

Originally Posted by Mister Zero

The more you look into this and think about it, the more ridiculous it becomes. Anyone that puts money toward this is just giving it away. You might as well just walk up to some stranger and give them $20. The response you get from them will be more rewarding than anything you will ever receive from this project.

I disagree here because these musicians aren't strangers to any of us (at least on an artists level) and $20 for what they have collectively and individually contributed to our entertainment over the decades is a tiny price to pay. They certainly aren't nameless and faceless people asking for money off the street. Sure it is a leap of faith, it could all fail and nothing ends up being released and you get nothing for the $20 but at the end of the day, if you donate, it should be in the spirit of charity. If you feel funny about it, just don't donate. I sort of respect them for asking for money rather than not asking, then being bitter about the project going nowhere due to lacking funds. Sometimes you just have to straight out ask for what you want and fans are definitely the first place to start because of the loyalty.

In the last 10 years, the band Marillion have released 4 studio albums which have all been totally funded by pre-release sales from their strong and loyal fan base. As a result, the band has been able to have complete ownership and control of the writing process and enter the studio with the funds to record the album without the cloud of debt hanging over their heads. Some of the recordings have taken more than a year from the date of pre-sale to the delivery of the album to the customer. As a result, the band have a career that would not have been otherwise and have nothing to do with record labels (other than EMI for international distribution). I think A.N.M are just doing the same thing, controlling a bit of their fate.